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September 22, 2021
Seven rules: how we manage and measure sustainable finance
James von Moltke and Gerald Podobnik speak at the Frankfurt School of Finance & Management
James von Moltke
Good afternoon, everyone. Gerald and I are delighted to be here. Very pleased to be discussing such an important topic with you.
We think Deutsche Bank has a historic opportunity to help Germany, and Europe, on the path to meeting our commitments under the Paris Agreement on Climate Change.
We also believe that market mechanisms, accountability and strong performance management is key to a successful transition to a more sustainable Deutsche Bank.
This afternoon:
Turning first to the role we aspire to:
We aim to:
We think Deutsche Bank is ideally placed to meet these aims – for several reasons:
So: how in practice do we seek to meet the aspirations I just described? Our approach consists of four pillars:
Across all four, we’re aligned to the United Nations Sustainable Development Goals and the Paris Agreement.
On each of these dimensions, we’re walking the talk. A few examples of how we’re putting this four-pillar approach into practice:
We announced concrete, transparent and verifiable targets for sustainable finance
Among our policies and commitments, we:
In our own operations, we:
As thought leaders, we:
Finally, a word about the dialogue with our stakeholders – the third of our three aims.
Across all stakeholder groups, the dialogue is intensifying – as it should, given the importance of the environmental challenge we face
We’re convinced we need to embrace this intensity as a unique opportunity:
Before I hand over to Gerald, a few words about media reports on DWS, our fund management arm, based on allegations made by a former employee.
Let me reference a few clear statements which DWS has made:
The fact is that the question of what constitutes an ESG transaction or investment, and what does not, is a challenge for the finance industry as a whole. Gerald will explain how we approach that challenge.
To sum up:
And with that, let me hand over to Gerald, who will discuss our approach in detail.
Gerald Podobnik – ESG Performance Management in Practice
Thank you, James, and good afternoon from my side as well.
Managing ESG performance presents significant challenges, but also opportunities.
Let me start by setting out three practical challenges we face in managing ESG performance:
First: as James said – across the financial industry we lack consistent, standardised definitions of what Environmental, Social or Governance activity actually is
Second: we see multiple overlapping frameworks to define disclosure rules.
Third, and the greatest challenge of all: the gap between ambition and impact:
In other words: the illusion of action is as dangerous as inaction.
Activity without tangible impact undermines our ability to meet the Paris Agreement and undermines our ability to accompany clients on that path as James outlined.
In addition, real impact is at the core of a credible dialogue will all our stakeholders:
Rigorous performance management is essential to guard against two particular dangers:
So: how do we confront these challenges?
The over-arching goal of ESG performance management must be: to help the organisation turn ambition into impact.
How do we do that? From our experience, we’ve learned seven rules.
Let’s look at those.
Rule 1: give your targets teeth! A strong governance framework is key
Your targets need to be backed up by a governance structure which is understood and respected by the businesses and which has the power to draw consequences for underperformance including linkage to compensation.
What does ‘strong governance’ mean in practice?
Deutsche Bank’s approach illustrates this:
The Management Board Sustainability Committee is chaired by CEO Christian Sewing – so we start at the top.
This is supported by a Sustainability Council which helps share best practice and cross-divisional activities.
A specialist Group Sustainability function monitors implementation and adherence to policy – this is an independent control function or ‘second line of defence’.
How does this governance work in practice? A few examples…
Rule 2: link your targets to incentives and compensation-setting
We use a balanced scorecard to measure and manage performance.
Initially for the Management Board, it’s now rolled out to around 300 top executives:
We don’t start from scratch:
We’ve added a ‘franchise’ component for around 50 senior leaders which assesses:
We lead from the top: meeting ESG targets has the greatest impact on compensation of the most senior people.
For Management Board members, the ESG performance factor within the long-term award accounts for 20% of reference variable compensation.
Rule 3: make your performance targets near term – the planet cannot wait
Clear long-term goals are important – but in addition, it’s vital to set some concrete near-term targets.
Large organisations including banks can make the biggest impact, but they’re not so nimble – so start early: re-configure your organisation around your ambitions and set short-term targets.
This gives you several opportunities:
Do near-term targets work? Let me answer that from Deutsche Bank’s experience:
As you can see, this approach is different from some of our leading peers who have announced bigger targets, but which go further into the future.
Our focus is not on quantum, but quality – we think long-term, but we act near-term!
Rule 4: make your targets granular! That focuses accountability
It’s important to push targets down as far as possible into the organisation – bottom up rather than top-down – because in our experience:
Deutsche Bank’s approach:
Rule 5: be selective! Focus your targets on activities with most impact
It’s essential to demarcate clearly what products and services are included and which are NOT included.
Deutsche Bank is transparent on what we do and don’t include:
We include:
We DO NOT include:
In the spirit of transparency, our framework is publicly available on our website.
What does this mean in practice? Let me give you some concrete examples of activities we include:
Rule 6: practice what you preach!
Performance management which is credible in the eyes of external and internal stakeholders, depends on evidence of delivery.
That’s been the case for Deutsche Bank.
This sends a message: when we say that agreeing a clear path to meeting the Paris agreement will increasingly become the prerequisite for client relationships, clients know we’re serious.
Rule 7 – the most important: manage performance for verifiable impact!
It’s all-important to manage ESG performance in a way that leads to real impact on the world around us.
Aligning the way you manage performance to a solid external benchmark.
Deutsche Bank’s approach:
We classify our business according to the UN’s 17 Sustainable Development Goals.
This is an art as well as a science.
There is, of course, some overlap across categories.
But it’s a vital, external reference point when defining impact.
We’re not done – we have more to do to align our performance management with environmental impact.
Going forward, this will include:
Conclusion
Let me sum up.
First: rigorous management of ESG performance is absolutely crucial in successfully delivering a credible sustainability strategy.
Second: ESG performance management will become more powerful if we’re able to harmonise around consistent, comparable approaches across the industry – banks, regulators, policymakers and experts all need to work together to make that happen.
Third: a few key factors determine the effectiveness of ESG performance management, which needs to be:
With that, on behalf of James and myself: thank you for your attention!
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